Reorganization involving the Eller College of Management’s School of Public Administration and Policy and Other Departments
Name of proposed new unit, OR Title of submission:
Reorganization involving the Eller College of Management’s School of Public Administration and Policy and Other Departments
Name of contact person for this proposal: Paul R. Portney
Contact person title: Dean, Eller College of Management
Contact Address:
McClelland Hall, Room 417
Contact Phone: 520-621-2125
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Although I agree with Dean
Although I agree with Dean Portney on his view that business students can benefit from having knowledge about the public and nonprofit sectors and that public administration students have something to gain by learning certain business methodology I have not seen this played out in reality. Having recently received my MPA this past May, I can say that absolutely none of the courses in the business school intrigued me or appeared relevant to my interests in non profit management. Of course, public administrators need a fundamental understanding of budget management, economics and finance. However, these topics must be presented in the context of public policy which the business school simply can not do. A public management track will not provide the depth of knowledge required of a 21st century public administrator. Serving now as a director at a large non profit agency here in Tucson, the skills and knowledge I use everyday include understanding government funding allocations, network facilitation, coalition-building, public policy analysis, community engagement, and grant writing. Without a doubt, I would have been ill-prepared in my current job had I only taken a public management track completely buried deep within the Eller College of Management.
The UA President’s Hispanic
The UA President’s Hispanic Advisory Council (HAC) is pleased to provide its evaluation of this White Paper/Proposal, with the specific goal of relating it to the joint UA/HAC goals concerning diversity and inclusion, recruitment, retention and graduation of Hispanic students and faculty, and on meeting the UA goal of becoming a Hispanic Serving Institution by 2012. Additional criteria used when reviewing this proposal include the following: UA’s land grant institution status and thus its location in the southwest and the changing demographics of this area; innovative program design, including instruction methodologies; and whether the proposal realistically addresses the UA’s business needs. HAC’s mission it to strengthen relationships between the UA and the diverse communities within the State of Arizona by serving as a communications conduit and developing mutually beneficial partnerships.
HAC has reviewed this proposal and rates this as:
Revamp – this proposal does not sufficiently address the Hispanic Advisory Council criteria and should be revamped
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As a finance professor, I
As a finance professor, I would like to offer a quick assessment of the budget savings provided in this white paper as well as the response provided by Brint Milward. I would make a couple of stipulations. First, I do not have the numbers to make a true assessment of the cost savings, and instead I will focus on broader issues. Second, I am not an unbiased observer as my wife is a lecturer in SPAP. As to the competing proposals for budgetary savings, I would note: 1. SPAP's numbers could be criticized as assuming that the school would lose all the fees, when in fact he is arguing for a Public Administration track. 2. The Dean’s proposal doesn’t account for any incremental lost revenue from the loss of students in the three majors in the BSPA and MPA. Clearly, this change would result in losing some students and all incremental fees would be lost. 3. As it relates to point 2, I think a reasonable assumption is to assume that the school will lose all incremental fees from the criminal justice students, which is 250 students. What is harder to assess is how many students Eller would lose if you offered only a PA track. This is obviously very hard to assess. 4. I think an even bigger issue is that it seems safe to assume that the University will lower its payments to the school of management to reflect the loss ~ 250 criminal justice students as proposed in the white paper. Clearly, some of the funding from the University that flows to the school of management currently would be diverted and follow the students. An ad hoc calculation would be something like; criminal justice represents 4% of the undergrad students in Eller. If 60% of the school of management’s funding from the University is related to undergrad education (I have no idea if this is correct) but this suggests that University funding of the undergrad program would be $25MM * 60% or $15MM (I am assuming the $25MM as a 4% budget cut was $1MM). Hence, if the funding follows the criminal justice students to the new college, this suggests that Eller lose approximately 4% of the $15MM in undergrad funding from the university or $600k from the University. 5. Overall, I think the Dean’s proposal would probably save the school of management some money (administrative salaries), but as it relates to the whole University any cost savings would be irrelevant as the students still need to have classes offered in another program.
A comment posted by Brinton
A comment posted by Brinton Milward, Associate Dean and Director, School of Public Administration and Policy, stated that the financial analysis provided in the white paper was flawed. Dean Portney stands by the financial analysis provided in the white paper.
Professor Milward estimated that the SPAP program generates a) $280,000 from program fees and b) $190,000 from philanthropy, and c) averages over $1,000,000 in grants and contracts per year.
Dean’s response to the above estimates:
a) The estimate for the $280,000 in program fees is based on assumptions that are incorrect. In fact, the program fees for the current fiscal year will generate approximately $138,000. If the college continues to educate the same number of students but in different programs of study, revenue is not lost.
b) The proposal clearly acknowledged that philanthropy is at risk.
c) Grant expenditures in the department averaged $69,074 during the last two fiscal years. The department generated a high volume of grant expenditures during the period 1999-2006, when a multi-disciplinary program was housed in the department. However, the PI that generated those grants is no longer with the University of Arizona. In the years 1993-1998, before the PI was located in SPAP, grant expenditures averaged $44,623 annually.
Arizona has a clear chance at
Arizona has a clear chance at being in the fore front of future energy policy. I intend to be part of that. Where will the trained managers for natural resource management in the public sector come from? Today they will come the SPAP concentration in Natural Resource Management. This is the only place locally to acquire the training necessary to translate my 30 years in private industry into the skills needed to achieve this.
I can get a business education at many schools. What SPAP offers is NOT available in many places. The competitors to our program are top universities who see the necessity of this training. Frankly, they will not be training people for Arizona public service. They are training people for Washington, Think Tanks and major East and West Coast cities.
I can and have run a business. But I don’t know how to run a nonprofit, how to write a grant, how to work through a political process that is much different from the “politics’ of the private world. The faculty at SPAP do. Research, public sector leadership and Tucson will be the losers if this proposal to
absorb SPAP programs into the business school moves forward.
When I decided to return to
When I decided to return to academia after a career as a healthcare executive, I made my decision to apply for the PhD program in the School of Public Administration and Policy at the Eller College because I was interested in contributing to teaching and research in healthcare delivery systems and public policy from an applied management perspective. The non-profit and public sectors are a huge part of our economy and deserve the same attention to preparation of competent management practitioners as the private sector. The role of SPAP as an independent school within the College of Management offers a unique opportunity to cross boundaries between the public, private non-profit and for-profit business sectors that cannot be found in other academic settings. I want very much for the school to remain as an integral part of the Eller College. Can the integration of public, non-profit and private sector management education be improved within Eller?... Absolutely. I agree with the Dean that private sector business students throughout the College could benefit from more exposure to the unique management challenges and opportunities in the public and non-profit sectors, and the public sector students would profit from more relevant courses in other departments. There are distinct differences between the sectors, however, in the content and context of management values and professional socialization that serve the public versus private interests. The idea of a public management 'track' within the M&O department versus an independent school will diminish the focus on the unique challenges in public sector and non-profit organizations and the students that have made a commitment to those sectors will not be as well served. There is a clear demand for students trained in public management so we need to maintain and expand our programs to meet those needs, particularly at the graduate level.
My other concerns are related to the financial justification for the proposed changes. Based on my exposure to SPAP operations, I believe the cost savings are overstated and the potential for lost revenues are understated. I encourage the transition committee to weigh all of the cost benefit issues in making what will be a very tough decision.
I am a PhD student in SPAP
I am a PhD student in SPAP and after reading the proposal, I have one point to make from a student perspective.
I agree with Dean Portney's statement that public servant training can benefit from a solid training in business skills; that is why I chose to attend UA. I moved to Arizona because I wanted to get an MPA from a program that was based in a Business College, for those same reasons. I also agree with Dean Portney that the training of business students can be greatly enhanced by an understanding of the public and non-profit sectors.
However, I think the Dean's proposal works better in theory than it would in practice; an assessment I am making from my own experience as a student in Eller. I think the benefits of the proposal would be more favorable to business students than to students of public administration. As a student of public administration, I still value business skills and knowledge; but I am much more jaded about how these courses benefit my work in the public and non-profit sectors. There are fundamental differences between the three sectors and it is extremely hard to cover, in one semester, course material in a way that makes it applicable to students from all three sectors.
Many of the courses I take are outside of SPAP and it is a constant struggle to take what I learn from them, and adapt them to the public and non-profit sector. Whether it be methods or theory, the material is either based in research that is done very differently from my research or material is thrown in at the very end of the semester to make it applicable to a more general audience.
SPAP has been the place where I can put my knowledge into a fitting context. I can take all the wonderful knowledge I have gotten from courses across the campus and take it back to SPAP and figure out how it can be applied to the public and non-profit sectors. Without SPAP, I would have business skills and other skills, but I would greatly lack the indepth understanding I have of two sectors that are so important to our lives. I have trouble imagining the same could be accomplished with only a Public Management Track.
As an alum of Eller at both
As an alum of Eller at both the undergraduate (business ‘98) and graduate (MPA ‘06) level, I’ve experienced the duality of public and private management education at the College. My MPA experience was necessary for me to translate my business education into a government career. From a student perspective, SPAP indeed fits with Eller and bridges the divide between for-profit and non-profit administration.
The assertion that a public management degree track would do justice to students of government and non-profit management simplifies what SPAP does into a few course credits. Serving the public requires a set of skills that is complimentary to business, but not equal.
If dissolved, SPAP would be sorely missed by both the local community and the region. Budgetary pressures require tough decisions. The hope is that the decisions will be made for the long-term improvement of the University and not a short-term gain to the bottom line.
The financial analysis in
The financial analysis in Eller College Dean Paul Portney’s White Paper is deeply flawed:
1. The proposal vastly underestimates the benefits of the program’s closure. The proposal claims closing the school would save the university about $563,000 plus ERE. This estimate does not include the revenues the school brings to the university and counts some of the revenue as savings. $77,500 of these “savings” comes from MPA student fees which pay for a MPA program manager and student aid. This was agreed to in the fee request that was approved by ABOR. SPAP has 55 MPA students who pay $1000 per semester of program fees which amounts to over $110,000 a year of revenue forgone if the school is closed.
2. The proposal does not acknowledge the likely increase in these fees when SPAP moves its MPA degree to the evening in the fall of 2009. Our market analysis of the demand for an MPA that meets the needs of working adults indicates that we can double our student body by moving our program to the evening to serve a much larger market of government and nonprofit employees while retaining our current full time student population. We project that this will increase MPA revenue from student fees to $220,000 per year.
3. The proposal acknowledges but makes little note of the fact that our undergraduates produce differential fees. Juniors and seniors pay $500 per semester ($1000 per year) plus tuition. SPAP has 344 declared majors. If half of our students are juniors and seniors then we produce approximately $170,000 in undergraduate fees.
4. Philanthropic giving is very important to the University of Arizona. The proposal acknowledges that SPAP brings in approximately $190,000 a year in philanthropic giving. He asserts that these donors may still contribute to Eller. The facts are quite different. One donor left his estate specifically for criminal justice (providing an endowment of $1,250,000). This would move to UA South with the criminal justice part of our program under this proposal. In addition, while the proposal lists the savings from eliminating the need for a director’s salary supplement, the school’s largest donor, who contributes a chair, has specifically stated that if the School of Public Administration and Policy is closed, he will cease all giving to the Eller College of Management.
5. Our faculty have averaged $1,061,827 in grants and contracts a year from 1998-2008.
In summary, the Dean’s proposal misstates the savings that accrue from closing the School of Public Administration and Policy. Our program produces at least $470,000 in revenue per year which must be balanced against the $563,000 plus ERE he claims closing the program will save. This doesn’t count the projected $110,000 increase in fees from offering the MPA program in the evening in 2009 or the over $1,000,000 in grants and contracts we have averaged per year. This is a school that makes money for the Eller College and the University of Arizona.
Eller as a Transformational
Eller as a Transformational College
The faculty of School of Public Administration and Policy (SPAP) are unanimous in their desire to remain as a degree granting academic unit within Eller. SPAP helps to make Eller a transformational College, a major goal of President Shelton’s initiative. Eller has been a leader in fields that others ignored: behavioral economics, MIS and entrepreneurship. Decades ahead of its time, the University of Arizona recognized the importance of teaching management across the three sectors of our economy (private, public and non-profit), and has more recently focused on creating an academic and teaching initiative of collaborative governance across the sectors. In support of this principle and in recognition of the University of Arizona’s leading efforts, the University of Southern California and University of Washington, two of the leading universities in the West have joined in partnership with SPAP to create the Consortium for Collaborative Governance. This clear focus on management across the sectors gives Eller a clear competitive advantage in today’s world of integrated public-private management where managers may move from sector to sector in the course of their career and public/private partnerships are common.
The need for leadership across the three sectors is confirmed by the revolution in outsourcing of government services to the private and non-profit sectors. An example of this cross sector trend is Tucson’s Providence Service Corp which has become the largest privatized provider of human services in the United States. It is further evidenced by the crisis of our financial sector where the taxpayer dollars used to buttress and rescue failing firms will require an unprecedented degree of public oversight and accountability, bringing government and business into ever greater proximity.
Over the last five years, SPAP has developed an award winning curriculum to reflect this focus on collaborative management and a set of faculty who are at the leading edge of an historic movement from “government to governance”. In today’s world, management is a complex mix of private, public and non-profit sectors. By maintaining our mission, Eller will be a leader in ensuring that our future labor force is ready for the challenge of collaborative management. Moving SPAP from Eller would be removing this competitive advantage from the University of Arizona.
H. Brinton Milward,
Providence Service Corporation Chair in Public Management
Associate Dean and Director, School of Public Administration and Policy (on leave)
Roger Hartley, Interim Associate Dean and Director
School of Public Administration and Policy
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